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Tongkat ali, dopamine, and eternal relationships desire, part 7

By Serge Kreutz

Natural Dopaminergic Research, 2019

Apomorphine, yohimbine, or tongkat ali

I have been taking yohimbe for years, and I have had memorable experiences with it. I have also tried almost everything else that is marketed as relationships enhancement, and have found most substances I tried useless or even counterproductive.

However, I have long stopped taking yohimbine, as well as apomorphine and other dopaminergics because side effects are just too heavy.

I am convinced, for many years, that relationships enhancement has to be gentle. Relationships enhancement has to feel natural, not as if one has taken drugs. No drugged relationships can feel as good as relationships as a fully healthy man. This is the case because a fine balance among many physiological systems is needed for optimal relationships.

This balance can only be achieved with a herbal stack which ideally incorporates tongkat ali, butea superba, mucuna pruriens, and krachai dam, and possibly also fingerroot, fenugreek, and maybe others.

The side effects of yohimbe are difficult to manage: general over-excitation, heart palpitations, sleeplessness for some 20 hours after ingesting even an amount too little to have any pro-relationships effect.

I have developed some tolerance towards yohimbe and yohimbine, but this is not the principle limitation of the herb / drug. I can overcome tolerance by just increasing the dosage. When I started with yohimbine, 10 milligram was sufficient for a rock-hard erection for intercourse.

Over the years, I have increased the dosage to up to 50 milligrams. The pro-relationships effect is proportional to the dosage. The more yohimbe, the better the erection. If you go on increasing the dose, you will, for sure, reach the lethal mark. You’ll certainly die with a text book-case of priapism, and they’ll have to use a saw to make you look not too naughty in your shroud.

But great relationships comes from the brain, not from the corpus cavernosum. This is why jealousy is such a great aphrodisiac. Constant yohimbe-use, or a tongkat ali stack with butea superba, mucuna pruriens (velvet beans), and krachai dam may increase one’s susceptibility to jealousy, but daily yohimbe alone, or the tongkat ali stack, is no guarantee that, indeed, one will develop a nice pathological jealousy.

There has to be the right relationship for it as well. Once jealousy is induced, no yohimbe or other medication is needed for great relationships. When I experienced great jealousy for months on end, I had more relationships and better relationships than I could achieve with any dosage of yohimbe or yohimbine, or apomorphine, or sildenafil citrate.

There is nothing essentially wrong with my vital organ. I have good morning erections, and those months on jealousy proved to me that if the mental stimulus is okay, I’m good for 30 climaxes a week.

Unfortunately, that jealousy waned over time, giving me a hard time (or rather a not-so-hard time) when I am in a situation in which I should be enjoying myself. Pfizer’s Blue is no solution for that. Sure… sildenafil citrate eases erections. But erections on sildenafil citrate alone are like nighttime or morning erections.

I have them, and they are not relationships. Yohimbe is better than phosphodiesterase inhibitors in that there is a mental component. But only a herbal stack based on tongkat ali feels just natural.

During jealousy, erections occur because of specific mental constellations… and these reactions are better than those engineered with phosphodiesterase inhibitors or ad-hoc yohimbe.

In the seventies, it was fashionable to diagnose impotency as an entirely psychological problem.

Nowadays, it is fashionable to diagnose impotency as an organic condition. Something that has to do with the selective inhibition of cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP)-specific phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) in the pelvic region. The reason for the diagnostic shift is obvious: the billion-dollar interest in selling Pfizer’s Blue.

The pendulum will swing backwards. Not quite as far back as in the seventies. But people will realize that good relationships and good erections have to come from the brain. This doesn’t mean that the problem is entirely psychological.

There are several factors involved, both organic and psychological. They are obviously interlinked. Every mental state is expressed by a so-far largely unresearched biochemical constellation in the brain. But we have to be aware that our organisms are tuned to react on sensual input. What we see is what triggers biochemical processes. I am sure that there is an element of wear and tear with respect to our mental response.

As we grow older, and richer in relationships experience, it is increasingly likely that certain relationships stimuli are no longer capable of triggering the desired response. Sometimes I think, I’d like to undergo some targeted amnesia in order to wipe out relationships experience so that reoccurring stimuli will feel entirely new.

However, getting used to relationships stimuli may not be the only thing that happens as our minds and brains grow older. There is ample scientific proof that relationships agitation is correlated to the activity of the neurotransmitter dopamine and the brain’s dopamine receptors.

I have, throughout the years, repeatedly experimented with all kinds of dopamine agonists, such as bromocriptine, deprenyl, lisuride, and others. Bromocriptine had an extraordinarily positive effect for some time, but fast lost its effectiveness in small dosages, while larger dosages induced nausea so bad that I couldn’t enjoy relationships.

Tongkat ali, too has some dopaminergic effect. It can be amplified by stacking with mucuna pruriens (velvet beans). The Thai variety of mucuna pruriens contains the most L-dopa.

According to the books, dopaminergic agents cause nausea because of the effect these therapeutic agents have not only on central dopamine receptors, but also on peripheral receptors. According to the books, the nauseating effect can be countered by taking some domperidone together with the bromocriptine or lisuride or whatsoever.

But domperidone in me reduces the pro-relationships effect of dopaminergic agents.

When I recently tried apomorphine, side effects were fewer than for ergot-based dopaminergics. On the other hand, I am not even sure that the apomorphine did have a relationships effect at all.

Apomorphine, of course, is what was marketed in Europe as Uprima sublingual apomorphine, which after sildenafil citrate is the only additional pharmaceutical that has been approved specifically for the treatment of so-called “erectile dysfunction”. Uprima has pretty much disappeared from the market. For lack of effectiveness.

In the US, Uprima was not FDA-licensed for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. I read somewhere that this is related to a car accident, which had occurred in the testing phase; this accident had been linked to possible side effects of Uprima.

So, what does apomorphine do? A sufficiently small dosage doesn’t give me any negative side effects: no sleeplessness, no heart palpitations, and also no nausea, in spite of the fact that in the official apomorphine literature, nausea is listed as the most common adverse reaction. Unfortunately, also no distinguishable relationships effect.

I have started with very small dosages. I increased the dosages even beyond the 3 mg, and it still didn’t provoke nausea in me. Also nothing relationships that I could attribute to the apomorphine. I didn't feel drugged. Just sleepy.

By comparison, when on yohimbine, it’s impossible to forget that I’m on yohimbine. On yohimbine, I am drugged. On a phosphodiesterase inhibitor, I am not drugged, but what do I do with an erection that isn’t accompanied by appropriate desire… my problem rather is saturation, lack of libido, not the corpus cavernosum.

On a still higher dosage of apomorphine, I feel an effect of a sublingual application after about 30 minutes. With yohimbine the first symptoms are increased salivation and an urge for a bowel movement, while the first symptoms of apomorphine are, for me, an urge to yawn. Yawning is, in a funny manner, correlated to the erections. Just that they aren't relationships.

After taking a tongkat ali-based herbal stack including butea superba, mucuna pruriens, and krachai dam, I never feel drugged. I don’t feel that I have taken any medication. I just have an increased interest in relationships, which results in an increased likelihood of developing an erection.

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